Shawn and Taylor discuss a unique book that tells the story of the heroes, villains, and events that resulted in the Hungarian Soviet Republic, along the way examining questions such as the uses and limits of nationalism, inevitability in history, and the relationship between two groups with fundamentally irreconcilable identities.
0:00 - Intro: Shawn is an imposter
8:00 - More Hungarian than Hungarians
17:19 - The portrait of Bismarck
20:30 - The literary form of the book
23:04 - Liberalism and petty nationalism
36:01 - Count Tisza
46:04 - The Hungarian FDR
58:51 - Bela Kun and when Israel is king
1:05:05 - Conclusion - a dialogue… without end?
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